The latest Armenians phone call the place Portasar – meaning “Slope Navel”
hello graham like your work. very much doubt the brand new waist line identity idea tho. “gobekli” try a beneficial turkish term and the turks just involved anatolia a thousand yrs in the past. the fresh new brands it gave was basically not related on prior labels inside the most other languages… also, unclear that gobekli is actually flipping the degree upside down? i do believe you will find some other agreements off a similar date from inside the northern iraq/syria. this region is an origin region of a type of grain. possibility anyone came to ferment it to have alcoholic beverages grind linked so you’re able to rites. perhaps repairs a romantic date getting icon carvings and spiritual method of behaviour – that’s currently speculated to own ‘shamanism’ about paleolitihic like 30k yrs in the past – but most of the quite straightforward truth be told there, very, i do believe… andy xx
Karahan is an additional fascinating name, potentially derived from Sumerian KAR/KARA, a combination of terms and conditions together with recognizable once the supply of French Carnac, offered just like the ‘harbour’ and you can translatable as the a great ‘signing up for together’, – to your added NA – out of rocks
Hi Andy You may want to go through the previous (Armenian) title off Gobekli Tepe earlier gotten their label during the Turkish. We have flew generally in the Armenia and certainly will tell you this is exactly a scorching problem with this new Armenians. A clue right here: Thanks a lot, Graham
thanks for the latest react, graham! the fresh new armenian claim is certainly alot more fascinating than the turkish name! and you will elizabeth is a translation. you realize so it?
Andy, Make use of the term ‘just’ which i did not, for good reason
Never ever neglecting that these sites is actually none Turkish neither Armenian from the the origins, but Mesopotamian and you may beyond. One another names, Gobek and you will Portasar try relevant because he or she is detailed off the place regarding the vocabulary additionally the time of those civilisations however, ultimately the name was Sumero-Akkadian that was the text of one’s region long before it came along. I’ve already made the truth one to Gobek comes from there thanks to GU?-BI (based in the Story out of Sukurru/The fresh new Instructions off Shuruppak), as most probably in addition to really does Portasar through BUR, this new ‘bowl’ otherwise, so much more amazingly, thanks to DUR (that is closely connected with GU?). The fresh English navel is sourced in the NA that’s ‘stone’. Off KAR-AN-NA (maybe useful source with AK). Egyptian Karnak appears to derive from KUR-NA, new stone mountains, a combination discover many time during my constant re also-interpretation off Enki’s Go to Nibru. Absolutely no situation can be produced having appropriation ones urban centers by one classification from the modern sizes of the brands. Madeleine
Turkish ‘gobek’, Armenian ‘portasar’, English ‘navel’ otherwise ‘umbilical’ all the head back using you to station or another into exact same context – from which all those terms derived. ‘Just’ ways things shallow that will end up being the contrary of your knowledge in cases like this. In fact, men and women terminology come from the initial thought of the latest heavenly womb, brand new Milky Method, the greatest maternal cord because of which birth and you may rebirth exist. I came across GU?-BI together in a beneficial 280-range text from Mesopotamia old so you can ca.2600 BC. The expression KILI, which includes various meanings of which ‘to encircle’ and ‘block’, employs a couple lines subsequent together. Perhaps a coincidence but In my opinion perhaps not. New UM of umbilical provides the considering meaning ‘rope’ if you are UM-MA ‘s the ancestral Mommy. New NA of waist line comes with the provided meaning ‘stone’ and i also highly recommend it’s way to obtain the new omphalos (UM) stone in the above list from the Graham. Buried or otherwise not, experience with like web sites are section of a deeply embedded society that went on before the a lot more later web log of your own Mesopotamians – into the a language known as Sumerian. The tale is just today beginning to lso are-appear.